Since 165 gr is a good bullet...The above loads will work but need to drop some for TSX bullet. I have both Varget and H4350 I would trade for either one of those. This is especially the case with medium to light weight heavier cast bullets for the cartridge. horsey300, Oct 19, 2019 #5 I made up some rounds with Varget and IMR 4166. It works in so many cartridges and has the added benefit of being Hodgdon’s reduced recoil powder. Varget and H4895 fall some five to seven percent below Superformance in MV. All Palmetto Reloading Gear/Accessories! Now I have a set of dies that will be exclusive the M1A Scout Squad. 38 VihtaVuori N340 88 Hodgdon H4895 138 Accurate Arms Magpro 39 Hodgdon Hi-Skor 800-X 89 VihtaVuori N530 139 IMR Co IMR 7977 40 Ramshot True Blue 90 IMR Co IMR 4895 140 Hodgdon H1000 41 Accurate Arms No. Other powders sharing this same situation are 4227, 4198, 4895, and 4831. Norma 202 - 1 lb TEXASforLIFE Hellcat. Reactions: TEXASforLIFE. H4895 - Suprform Ratio, 95.0%. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. No chrono but I had some interesting results at the 100 yard mark. Jan 16, 2021 #15 Nice set-up! Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - 2230: 130 gr. The fun continues . Post Apr 17, 2015 #1 2015-04-17T23:32. I can get a little bit better accuracy out of Varget. Re: H4198 vs. H4895 Post by wilko » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:58 pm i tried realy hard to love H4198 in the 45/70 but i always end up with varget clean burning, fills the case just fine and low pressure.. oh, and OUTSTANDING accuracy. Varget, Benchmark, Hodgdon 4350, Hodgdon H4895, IMR 8208 XBR, AR Comp, Reloader 10x, Reloader 16. 22. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Palmettostatearmory, I use both, but currently, Varget is unavailable for me. And w/ the current prices for Varget I won't be buying any more. I loaded up some rounds at different powder levels for H4895, Varget, and 4064 and went to the range. On the other hand, there are times when working up a load for a new bullet where Varget is the magic ingredient that brings it all together. Jan 16, 2021 #15 Nice set-up! Reactions: Scout308. The .223 caliber has evolved from the battlefield AR-15 platform to popular sporting use in varmint and predator hunting, match competition, and all … This is with a Remington 40-X. H4895 is a bit faster burning and does ignite and burn more efficiently than Varget at the lower level pressures used with some cast bullet loads, even when a Dacron filler is used with both. Decided to go with Varget and headed to town to see if they had any at the only place for 50 miles that sells powder. Soldier of God, sixgun junky, Retired electrical lineman. (You must log in or sign up to reply here.). H4895 is a bit faster burning and does ignite and burn more efficiently than Varget at the lower level pressures used with some cast bullet loads, even when a Dacron filler is used with both. They ask $40 a pound for it around here. A couple weeks ago I did a few test rounds with 4166 and noticed they were similar to some Varget loads I had shot before. I also have two powder measures, one for Varget and other for H4895. Founding Member. I ran these loads with a .003″ jump. 5 91 VihtaVuori N135 141 Ramshot Magnum 42 Hodgdon HS-6 92 Alliant Reloder 12 142 Hodgdon RETUMBO Norma 200 - 1 lb Item POWN2001. Varget works in the .22-250 Remington (although I prefer Hodgdon’s H380, I do have several loads for Varget), is stellar in the .308 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield, and shines in both the .375 H&H and … check out the. For the 155gr bullets, the 4895 would be be best For 168 gr the VARGET is best For 175 the 4064 is best GARANDS are one of the guns where slam fires can happen H4895 with IMR 4895, but this is not always the case. All of those powders work well in .30-06. IMR 4166 vs. Varget side by side comparison. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Less than 2 years old, sealed and it’s been storage in a climate controlled dark cabinet. I really like Varget for precision .308 loads in my bolt guns. Always have back up plan. Reactions: Scout308. A2520 is a little spikey for me. The .223 caliber has evolved from the battlefield AR-15 platform to popular sporting use in varmint and predator hunting, match competition, and all-around plinking fun. I was going to reply, but I will yield to the man that shoots 1/3" at 300 yds. Assuming I didn't mess up my TAC reloading, what might explain getting such worse groups with TAC vs. My loads are all for hunting using Nosler PAR, Speer or Barnes TTSX bullets that are … 22. danthecarpenter. It never did pourly just never impressed me and I haven't bought anymore. The rifle did pretty well with the 107 SMK and Varget. Subsonic Handloads in .308 Win – Testing Results I started the 180gr loads seated to the cannelure with 12, 11, and 10 grains of TB. 22. Re: H-4895 vs Varget - 12/13/10 I hate to state the obvious, but if both are listed as acceptable powders in the manuals, the only way to know in YOUR rifle is to load a few with each, in various charge weights, and check the on-target and over-the-chronograph performance. (The Ramshot TAC bottle is an old one, this shape used during its earlier appearance in the UK.) WIN 748 Versus Varget for 308 Win and 233 R I have used both for .223 but prefer Varget. Where is the best place to start? H4895 is great to have around because of its versatility. danthecarpenter. I use the following loads in my M70 target rifle with a 26" barrel of 12" twist. 5 91 VihtaVuori N135 141 Ramshot Magnum 42 Hodgdon HS-6 92 Alliant Reloder 12 142 Hodgdon RETUMBO If I had to rank them I would say Varget first and H4895 second. During that time, Hodgdon has modernized H4350 by shortening the grains for improved metering and making it insensitive to … Varget - Suprform Ratio, 93.7%. Hodgdon H322 $29.99 Brownells.com. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. IMR also. But Varget and RL15 get the nod due to their better resistance to temperature changes. A better alternative to Varget that is available in the metro is look at IMR 4896 or H4895. A2520 is a little spikey for me. Nothing to rave about. Reactions: TEXASforLIFE. I am going to be using it to load .243 Win, .308 Win, and 30-06 Springfield. In our view, if you are a rifle user, there is "zero" downside, except maybe price, for picking a temp stable powder, as they are superior to non temp stable powders, overall. If you have H4895 or reloader 16 in 8 pound jugs that is unopened let me know if you want to trade. Talyn Hellcat. I have never used Varget powder, so I was wondering how clean it burns compared to IMR 4895. and, of course what you are loading for if you are looking high volume and ease of metering then you have to look at CFE if you seeking accuracy then you might look at IMR 4895 or H4895 and IMR 4064 is not too shabby either. I use both Varget and H4895 for reloading .308. Today's test powder is Hodgdon Varget. I also have two powder measures, one for Varget and other for H4895. H4895 is a versatile rifle powder with origins in the 30-06 cartridge as a military powder. TEXASforLIFE Hellcat. Jan 16, 2021 #16 Scout308 said: I’m new to M1A. 46 gr CFE works well. The Zediker match load for 308 is 41.5 gr H4895, 168 grains match bullet , BR-2 primer and IMI match brass. I have gotten better accuracy with Varget than 4895 in a bolt action.223 w/22" barrel. It's the Bobs' Bulk Bullets 55gr fmjbt versus Hornady 55gr fmjbt round two. Sometimes it depends on which powder is available. 4895 is $25 so it's a no brainer. H4350 is an extruded propellant in our Extreme series that has been one of our most popular powders with shooters for decades. Hodgdon Varget - 8 lb Item POWHVAR8. This is a historic powder for Hodgdon as it was the first powder sold by our founder, Bruce “B.E.” Hodgdon to the reloading public. The .308 Winchester is not only a historic battlefield caliber, it is an established match caliber and one of the best all-around North American hunting calibers. I get very acceptable results from both powders. Hodgdon Powder 8lbs Varget Smokeless Gun Powder $191.00 FREE S&H Code. IMR-4895 for "Service Rifle" loads in my M1. Muzzle velocities ranged from 2,609 to 2,865 feet/second with standard deviations ranging from 6.7 to 16.2 feet per second. Founding Member. 46 gr CFE works well. No chrono but I had some interesting results at the 100 yard mark. 2.690 in. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. It’s another great choice for medium cartridges such as the .308 Winchester and the good, old .250-3000 Savage. This is especially the case with medium to … 42 gr. It was a good powder years ago; it has been made better by the modern coatings to reduce temperature sensitivity. It is also an "Extreme" powder and is less sensitive to ambiant heat changes. Group sizes ranged from .395″ (.377 MOA- 4-shots) to .917″ (.876 MOA) with an average size of .703″(.671 MOA). I got 3031, 748, H4895, BL(C)-2, Varget, and IMR 4064. ... Hodgdon Varget - 1 lb Item POWHVAR1. Hodgdon H4895 - 8 lb Item POWH48958. Jan 16, 2021 #16 Scout308 said: I’m new to M1A. danthecarpenter. 22. danthecarpenter. Talyn Hellcat. 41.5 gr. Norma 201 - 1 lb Item POWN2011. Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by Trey Veston, Mar 28, 2020. If you have H4895 or reloader 16 in 8 pound jugs that is unopened let me know if you want to trade. H4895 or Varget if you load for .223 also. IMR also. I loaded up some rounds at different powder levels for H4895, Varget, and 4064 and went to the range. Reloading for the .223 is easy and there are a number of great powder choices. Joined Oct 12, 2015 Messages 540. The 50s will be used out of a break action on varmints to deer (12 twist) the 70+ out of several ars for deer and pronghorn. The fun continues . My office was a 100 feet in the air, closer to God the better. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...ight=tomme+boy, http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...light=RogerDat, http://http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?293211-Bubba-w-a-45-70-is-a-bonafied-straight-shooter. Where is the best place to start? The Zediker match load for 308 is 41.5 gr H4895, 168 grains match bullet , BR-2 primer and IMI match brass. H4895: Sliding up the scale, we see H4895—with ties to the original surplus military powder that Bruce Hodgdon sold. Hodgdon H50BMG - 1 lb Item POWH50BMG1. A couple weeks ago I did a few test rounds with 4166 and noticed they were similar to some Varget loads I had shot before. Hodgdon Powder Varget is well-reviewed: My preference is to trade it for Varget, and secondly Win 748, but either is fine. H4895 had 1.5" groups at best at 100 yards. They showed a max load of 40 grains with a 123 SMK. Varget is a favorite with varmint hunters and high power shooters. Thread starter nakneker; Start date Jan 22, 2021; N. nakneker Well-Known Member. The Hodgdon Reloading Data Center (RDC) lists 21 different powder types that can be used in the … 44.5 gr. Liberalism isn't just a disease anymore, it is a mental disorder. Each of these powders is available from both the Hodgdon and IMR powder companies. It also burns cleaner than Varget. ill be the negative here. After searching for laod data for 308 win using Ramshot TAC and 168 grain A-Max I have found very little but I did notice that TAC falls directly between H335 and H4895 on the burn rate scale does anyone have data on the above … Jan 22, 2021 #1 I live in Snowflake Arizona, my office is in Gilbert. I did a little test today. Hodgdon H50BMG - 8 lb Item POWH50BMG8. When varget came out everyone raved. This is with a Remington 40-X. 42 gr. Now I have a set of dies that will be exclusive the M1A Scout Squad. I have a few pounds and it worked well. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...t-shooter-too! “AMERICA WILL NEVER BE DESTROYED FROM THE OUTSIDE. Posted: 10/26/2017 12:57:53 PM EST I ended up ordering 16lbs of IMR 4895. IMR 4166 vs. Varget side by side comparison. Vintage Boxes - Gear, Shell, Case, Primer, Group Buys Design, Active , Waiting and Archives, Closed Buys/Waiting for delivery/in shipment, If this is your first visit, be sure to Varget: This might be one of the most versatile and useful offerings in the lineup and has all but replaced IMR4064 in most of the cartridges in which I loaded it. 4064 had had 1" groups at best at 100 yards. 38 VihtaVuori N340 88 Hodgdon H4895 138 Accurate Arms Magpro 39 Hodgdon Hi-Skor 800-X 89 VihtaVuori N530 139 IMR Co IMR 7977 40 Ramshot True Blue 90 IMR Co IMR 4895 140 Hodgdon H1000 41 Accurate Arms No. Hodgdon H4895 - 1 lb Item POWH48951. H4895 had 1.5" groups at best at 100 yards. H4895 is a very good powder in the .308W with 150, 155 and 175 gr bullets. Post Apr 17, 2015 #1 2015-04-17T23:32. They work better in .223 and will allow you to use them in both calibers. I bought a 8lb keg and tried it in about everything and never found it to do better then the best load I already had for any gun I owned. Varget turned in 0.8" groups at 100 yards. Hodgdon Superformance powder is the top performer in the .22-250 Remington cartridge with a Hornady 60 grain V-max bullet. Since 165 gr is a good bullet...The above loads will … I use IMR-4895 90% of the time when loading for a Garand. 4064 had had 1" groups at best at 100 yards. Imr 4895 vs h4895 I found a big box full of 158 grain jacketed round nose flat under the reloading bench and was thinking of using some in the 35 rem but going through the reloading books I have there is data for IMR4895 but none for H4895. I did a little test today. The proper burn rate powder for the .308 is a mid-range rifle powder, which gives the reloader a large selection of appropriate choices. The Hodgdon Reloading Data Center (RDC) lists 21 different powder types that can be used in the .223. Most of these are interchangeable with the similarly designated powder, i.e. IF WE FALTER AND LOSE OUR FREEDOMS, IT WILL BE BECAUSE WE DESTROYED OURSELVES.” President Abraham Lincoln. I made up some rounds with Varget and IMR 4166. Varget or H4350 for H4895 or reloader 16, Phoenix area. 47.5 gr. I know some of the 6.5CM guys talked about it with RL17.
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